Defu 368A Key Cutting Duplicated Machine feedback: pay what it can do

Generally, the users consider Defu 368A Key Cutting Duplicated Machine is worth all money, it can do what we pay, read all available feedback in the below parts.

-> I bought a defu 368a key copy machine because really cheap and it works good on many types of key.

-> works like a rocket with titanium drill (bought from ali)

-> I have one, no problems as long as you use good quality cutter, NOT the ones that come with it. I use hss instead of carbide with it, seems to work better. As an aside, I am trying to attach space and depth micrometers to it to cut keys by dimension without depth keys. Not a priority, but would be nice to be able to do that.

->At the moment I have the 368a. I’ve done lots of keys with it. bought the carbide cutters and needed 3 of them for cutting a key. not good at all.

But with titanium cutter is good. I am using it for mobile cutting only. Worth all the money.

from here I bought the 368a key cutting machine for 220 volt..

http://www.carobd.de/wholesale/368a-key-copy-cutting-machine.html

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-> use only for hobi and satisfied with this machine.

->I think is ok. I own one and I modified the engine. Now it works at 12 v dc

-> can copy normal key like toyota mitsubishi, and flat keys like bmw and vag etc. check defu key cutter on youtube. For some keys you may need additional clamps like tibbe etc but search defu key cutting and you will see.

-> I made key for kia pocanto. It is smooth I also ordered seperate clamps for tibbe keys and a full set pf cutters.

-> If you are going to do for business the 130 I will not recommend, depends how much you want to spend but for just under ? 960 I would go for MIRACLE-A7 Key Cutting Machine, however, I have MIRACLE-A7 cutter it’s not very good at all I would save more and buy a Xhorse CONDOR XC-MINI ! or may be try find a used genuine A5 there very good but very slow ..

In addition, how to choose a good key cutting machine?

Quote DK member’s experience here.

Car key cutting machines depend on budget and on how many keys it will cut a day , some machines are light use , some are medium use and some are heavy duty use , some are better suited to the back of a van than others , some are built to last forever , some are start up machines with limited life.

I have 4 cut to code machines:

Xhorse ikeycutter condor: i could say that with a little more from 2000 a very good choice would be xhorse condor mini. it cuts most keys I’ve needed it to do.

Miracle A6 : light use machine in my opinion , reliable and cuts an accurate key , has a few miscut issues but not many and has proved reliable and well suited to mobile use .

Ninja Laser: medium use machine , cuts perfect keys and is well supported , seems happy on back of van , quality reliable machine that will last

Silca Viper : heavy duty heavy use machine , good on van but big and heavy , mines cut 25000 keys and is still as good as new, cant fault it at all

with machines you must remember that the more they make it do , the less robust it seems to become , I can’t see futura cutting the keys that my viper has and still be alive let alone pristine , so a heavy duty specialist machine will last longer , hold its value more and have a higher resale value .

miracle a5 is a decent machine , but had bugs and issues , is no longer updated or supported , but really cheap at present and a good starter machine for light use.

bd laser is another decent machine that stood test of time and well suited to heavy use

Can’t fault , miracle a6 , ninja laser or silca viper as all have done me proud , all paid back and some , and all still going strong , if i had to pick a favorite it would be ninja laser or viper .

like with anything, with a cut to code machine you get what you pay for , you pay cheap you normally get cheap , it’s a major investment and crucial kit that needs to work to pay back , the better the machine the more reliable and better it will pay back , in my experience you cant get better than keyline or silca , they are the rolls royce of machines , my viper is 12 years old and i could if i sold it still get nearly what i paid for it back then , good machines hold resale value far better .

miracle A6 in my opinion it’s a light use machine , but a decent one.

If you are buying again, which one you’d like to buy?

Is Lonsdor k518ISE better coverage than obdstar X300 DP (key master DP)?

Lonsdor k518ISE differs from obdstar X300 DP (key master DP) in vehicle coverage and price.

1.vehicle coverage
-> obdstar X300 DP (key master DP) feedback: I have the Key Master and its Ok works 50% of the time and the rest it fails to communicate.

A must read post: OBDSTAR X300 DP IMMO & Odometer reset car list & Feedback

Feedback collections (up to 12/14/2016)

IMMO & Remote feedback on DK forum

Mileage correction feedback on DK forum

Tip: OBDSTAR X300 DP IMMO & mileage correction share as the same coverage as X100 Pro

-> Lonsdor K518ISE Key programmer vehicle coverage has no feedback yet, this one looks interesting but only time will tell. From what you’ve read, you will find this Lonsdor k518ISE is a little better than AVDI for a lot less the money. It is also twice the money of OBDStar X300 DP and Xtool tablets. Lonsdor K518ISE Claimed vehicle coverage: http://en.lonsdor.com/html/function

It claims to work on Volvo, LR, BMW FEM and CAS4, VAG IMMO5, etc…

There are some videos on the most used European cars from Ford, PSA, Fiat, Opel, VAG, Renault…as well as American cars, Asian cars etc, judging from CI600 reputation K518ISE should work.

2.Price

obdstar X300 DP (key master DP) price: $800~ $900 (google search you will find)

Lonsdor K518ISE Key programmer price: about $1200 for the first batch of 500pcs.

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Conclusion:

So if you want to cover more cars you should choose between k518ise.

OBDStar doesn’t seem to offer an adequate alternative for the Android tablet products.

VVDI2 read PIN & CS from VW Golf VI 1.6 TDI PCR2.1?

Verified: VVDI2 cannot read PIN & CS from VW Golf VI 1.6 TDI PCR2.1

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Discussion copied from a forum:

A: Is it possible with VVDI2 read PIN and CS from VW Golf VI 1.6 TDI PCR2.1????

I need to change ECU and make IMMO work. Old ECU is damaged…

B: I did that several times. It’s not possible to read CS and pin from new used Ecu prc2.1. You have to have a tool like Smok or avdi. To read CS and pin. Then you can add Ecu by vvdi2.

A: Are you sure that once you know the PIN, MAC, CS you can adapt the PCR 2.1 with VVDI2? We’re not talking about the EDC17, MED17 or PPD 1.X, but about the PCR2.1. I taught hat PCR 2.1 can’t be adapted with VVDI2

B: Yes I’m 100% sure. I bought Smok license for pcr2.1 and done rest with vvdi2.

A: This is my plan too, but I read that the adaptation can’t be done with VVDI2. Thank you, mate, have a nice one!!!

B: I did few Skoda Octavia 1,6tdi 2010-2011

1.U need to read PIN MAC CS. From the dash.

2.If it’s ok then read by Smok PIN MAC CS. 3.Go to adapt unit module and choose Specify manually the existing PIN/CS…. and put your data.

4.After that if all ok you be able to filling up New Immobilizer data. That’s all. Even before u buy Smok u can make a try just skip point 2.

A: Excuse my ignorance, but what is the easyest way to read the CS from a 2009 Passat CC with EDC17 for dealer key preparation, I prefer not to open the ECU. Regards!!!

B: Pull and read comfort control module behind glovebox

Conclusion & Solution: Smok or AVDI instead of VVDI2 read PIN & CS from pcr2.1, then add ECU with VVDI2

CGDI Pro MB Mercedes Benz Programmer review: all key lost OK

GGDI Pro MB Mercedes Benz Programmer review on what works, very nice CGDI MB tool 🙂
1. CGDI MB tool adds only key with the option “with key”.
2. CGDI MB tool program new key with the option “without key” when all keys lost.
3: CGDI MB tokens
4: CGDI MB tool VS Xhorse VVDI in PCB
5. CGDI MB update

1. CGDI MB tool adds only key with the option “with key”.
– W220 first test, Read Blank Key, Read Write Erase key OK, read EZS and Password from Key…works

– Tested on W212
Read EZS —> OBD work Fine
Calulating PW from EZS —> Work fine Online Server
Key Calculating —> v041 & v051 Work fine online Server

– Mercedes W212 2010 e250 Petrol Automatic works

– Mercedes W221 2010 Facelift S600 V12 works

– W207 on bench OK, 11 minutes

– W203 2004 spare key making takes about 13 minute when begining to programming new key. Read pass NEC key by IR and calculate PSW
Key still working after get PSW.

2. Program new key with the option “without the key” when all keys lost.
– test all keys lost on w164 need gateway.

– Tested w212 ALL KEY LOST !!! In car, done by OBD
Work really good!
W212 is from 2012
Read ezs About 30mins
Upload data
Querry
Password given

Read eis info
Paste key password
Save
Then key calculation

– CGDI MB tool works good to do W207 W204 lost keys on bench.
W204 get data: About hour
PSW W204: 11minute all key lost in bench with VVDI cable
had VVDI and CGDI,CGDI is faster and no problem to get PSW:

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Question: when we have CGDI tool working all by OBD why lads want the tool to work on the bench???
Answer: For example if car is some further from workshop and you must spent time driving to the car or customer is just TOO far to drive, so then he can sent EIS or drive by himself bringing EIS it with him at workshop. It’s time saver and what if tool will not work via OBD? You will loose many time driving ex. 30 miles x2. If you have on bench, you can work at your place without risk of wasting time. Also calculating psw at the place of car might last 30 minutes, 1 hour in all keys lost? It’s much time to sit in the car + you have to take care of battery charger. If you have on bench, you can drink a coffee or a beer if you want and enjoy the waiting time
Still no tool which can do all merc by OBD anyway…

W203 with W209 EZS all keys lost, done in the car about 70mn: Successful.

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– Calculation PSW always the first time, never fail.

-Plug USB to computer, software recognizes at once. So I take 2 used BE key put in and read. Software say need 12V.
So I plug 12V and read and reset to unused quickly. Will test on bench W209 as key lost later.

CGDI MB tested failure and explanation from CGDI engineer:
CGDI work not on all by OBD
W906 Sprinter don’t work (CGDI Supports W906 only CAN BUS not K-line)
W230 SL55 AMG 2006 dont work (CGDI supports W230 CAN BUS, you can send EIS and CGDI MB tool to factory to add K-line)

3: CGDI MB tokens
CGDI MB tool also work with tokens for password online calculation. free two tokens each day for 6 months.
Test reports: test online calculation, very fast, less than minute. And the counter (10) decrease to 9. Today it become 10 again. So I think for now until 6 months, I can calculate 10 time/day.

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4. CGDI MB tool VS Xhorse VVDI in PCB
CGDI MB tool is not VVDI clone, open CGDI and you can see the PCB is complete other than from VVDI and MCU is other than from VVDI !!! CGDI is cheaper than VVDI that’s right!

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5. How to update CGDI MB key pro?
Update on http://www.cgprogcar.com/, click column “Download” for the newest update package.

To sum up:
After reading these positive reviews, I am sure you can trust CGDI MB key programmer is decent tool to own.

Where to buy one CGDI mb tool?
There are not only one seller supplys this tool, but I think www.carobd.de is a trustworthy place to buy

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Source: http://www.carobd.de/wholesale/cgdi-prog-mb-benz-key-programmer.html

Best regards

Lonsdor K518ISE key programmer leaves key pro m8 behind behind behind

The first batch of Lonsdor K518ISE is now under final installation

Contact http://www.carobd.de for pre-order

First come, first served!

Email:Sales@CarOBD.de

Phone: 0086-15926327598

Skype: carobd.de

Lonsdor K518ISE Key Programmer for sale 11024EUR free shipping

SKE-LT Smart Key Emulator 4 in 1 Set for sale 170 EUR (to program Toyota/Lexus smart key all key lost via OBD, SKE-LT Smart Key Emulator is optional)

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Lonsdor K518ISE is worth to own by every locksmith, because k518ISE leaves many key programmers behind behind behind

in 3 aspects:

1.Lonsdor K518ISE is developed and served by a qualified tech team including the famous Jian Min master.That means, you don’t need to worry about the update, more and more car brands will be updated soon or later.
If you are not familiar Jian Min master and his Lonsdor brand, browse the official site: http://en.lonsdor.com/. You could learn all you want to learn about K518ISE such as: testable car brands/ immo system, newest updates, test reports and more.

2. Lonsdor K518ISE is the 1st in the world to do…
the K518 SE with so many unprecedented features + built in RFID Transponder Reader / Writer

1st in the world tool to introduce Kia / Hyundai Read PIN code function for Type 46 & 47 keys + Add Smart Key without PIN code 😉

1st in the world tool to match keys for all Volvo models via OBD

1st in the world tool to introduce Universal Smart Key Emulator shown below .

Toyota Smart Key all lost Lamborghini Porsche BMW & LandRover Ferrari Models covered + a whole lot of Chinese made vehicles GreatWall Haval Borgward MG Beiqi Foton as well

Will announce for once ready in stock, awaiting English version

Detailed Coverage till now

[ World First] Hyundai/Kia smart systems( 47 chip ) added for key learning without pincode

World First] Hyundai/Kia smart systems( 46 chip ) added for key learning without pincode

[ World First] Hyundai/Kia smart systems ( 8A chip ) added for key learning without pincode

Volvo S80(before 09 smart key) key program;

Volvo V40 key program

Volvo C30 key program

Volvo V60 key program

BYD smart key program without Pincode

[ World First] Mazda 3 Angkesaila smart key program (2017)

Nissan key system (4 Digit Pin Code)

Nissan remote system

Nissan smart key system (New 20 Digit Rolling Pin Code) ;

Nissan smart key system (New 20 Digit Rolling Pin Code) support Qashqai(after 2015)

Nissan smart key system (New 20 Digit Rolling Pin Code) support X-TRAIL(before 2013)

Nissan smart key system (New 20 Digit Rolling Pin Code)

Nissan smart key system (New 20 Digit Rolling Pin Code) support QX60(after 2013)

Nissan smart key system (New 20 Digit Rolling Pin Code) support teana-vip(after 2013)

Nissan smart key system (New 20 Digit Rolling Pin Code) support Cima(after 2013)

Nissan smart key system (New 20 Digit Rolling Pin Code) support JX35(after 2013)

3.Lonsdor K518ISE Test reports or reviews is always much reliable, I try my best to conclude all here:
Maserati smart key 2016

VW IMMO5 Key/Smart key programming

Program Porsche Cayenne smart key… confirmed

Audi Q3 2013 key programming… confirmed

Volvo S60 smart key Full Keyless… confirmed

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Lonsdor K518ISE program Volvo XC60 smart key via OBD

Toyota LEXUS ES200 All Key Lost… confirmed

Part 1: Backup Immo Data

Part 2: Making Emulator
Part3: Add Key

HONDA CIVIC Key Programming with Lonsdor K518ISE… confirmed

Lonsdor K518ISE Program Hyundai Sonata Smart Key

To be continued…

Last but very important, for more test reports please refer to the official site, to pay less money, please visit http://www.carobd.de/wholesale/lonsdor-k518ise-key-programmer.html

2017 Super SBB2 Key Programmer VS SBB V46.02 VS SBB V33.02 VS CK100 V46.02

2017 Super SBB2 Key Programmer can perform both immobilizer function (key programming & pin code read) as well as mileage adjustment, Oil/service Reset, TPMS EPS,BMS etc. Super SBB2 is different from SBB V46.02, SBB V33.02 and CK100 in package, functions, vehicle coverage and year, language available, etc.

Here we go one by one!

1.The different: package
1) Attach SBB2 Key Programmer package and adapters pictures: good quality of main unit, OBDII-16 connector, HONDA-3 connector, HYUNDAI/KIA-10 connector, KIA-20 connector, main cable, TF card reader and TF card in the unit.

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Enlarge SBB2 main unit and you can see the main cable port, keyboard and the USB port, all are designed firmly.

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SBB2 unit and all adapters will be in such a box and ship to you.

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2) V46.02 SBB Key Programmer package VS SBB V33.02 package:

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(Pic 1: V46.02 SBB Key Programmer package, good quality of SBB Main Unit, OBDII cable, AC adapter and one CD with user manual)

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(Pic 2: V33.02 SBB Key Programmer package: SBB Main Unit, OBDII cable, AC adapter and one CD with user manual)

2.The different: Functions
2017 Super SBB2: immobilizer function + mileage adjustment, Oil/service Reset, TPMS EPS,BMS etc.

SBB2 immobilizer function list:

1.New keys programming;
2. Reads keys from immobilizer’s memory;
3. New immobilizer programming;
4. New ECU programming;
5. New mechanical key number programming;
6. Vehicle Identification Number programming;
7. Reset ECU&reset immobilizer;
8. Easy to operate by the guided menu programming;
9. New remote controller programming;
10. Immo PINCODE reader;
11. Odometer adjustment(Via obd);
12. With full and strong database for the most important vehicle makes;
SBB V46.02 function list:

1.Programming new keys.
2. Reading keys from immobilizers memory
3. Deactivating keys no longer in the car owners possession
4. Operation by means of a menu guided programming
5. Programming new remote controls
6. Software with full database containing all the most important vehicle makes
CK100 function = SBB V46.02

SBB V33.02 function list:

1.reading keys from immobilizer’s memory
2.deactivating keys no longer in the car owner’s possession
3.operation by means of a menu guided programming
4.programming new remote controls
5.software with full database containing all the most important vehicle makes

3.The different: vehicle coverage and year
1) 2017 Super SBB2: up to 2017.3 year.

Immobilizer: ACURA, AUDI, BAIC, BESTURN, BRILLIANE, BYD, CHANGAN, CHANGHE, CHERY, CHRYSLER, CITROEN, DFLZ, DFPV, DS, FORD, GEELY, GM, GREATWALL, HAFEI, HAIMA, HAWTAI Motor, HONDA, HONGQI, HUAPU, HYUNDAI, INFINITI, JAC, JAGUAR, KIA, LANDROVER, LEXUS, LIFAN, LINCOLN, LUFENG, MAZDA, MG, MITSUBISHI, NISSAN, OPEL, PEUGEOT, PORSCHE, RENAULT, ROEWE, SAIC ENGLANG, SEAT, SKODA, SMART, SSANGYONG, SUBARU, SUZUKI, TOYOTA, VW, YOUNGLOTUS, ZZMAZDA, ZZNISSAN;

OBDII: OBDII V20.80 for diagnose

BMS REEST: V18.13

Electronic Park Brak: V22.71

TPMS: V19.20

TPS: V27.66

Odometer: AUDI, VW, BENZ, Chrysler, Ford, GM, Porsche, Skoda, Seat

2) SBB V46.02 vehicle coverage VS SBB V33.02:

Toyota G chip works

works on Toyota Honda Ford up to 2014 year.

works on Acura 2012, Chevrolet 2013, GMC 2013.

SBB V33.02: up to 2011 year.

3) CK-100 V46.02

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4.The different: Language
SBB2 Key Programmer language: English

SBB V46.02 Language: English, Italian, German, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish

SBB V33.02 Language:

English/Italian/German/French/Spanish/Greek/Portuguese/Turkish/Russian

5.SBB V46.02VS CK-100 V46.02:
1) The same:

Same Toyota G Chip

Same software version

Same function

Same vehicle coverage: SBB v33.02 <Ck100 V99.99 <SBB v46.02=CK100 v46.02

Which one is more popular?

CK-100 V46.02,better quality at higher price.

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Source:http://www.carobd.de/wholesale/ck-100-auto-key-programmer-sbb-the-latest-generation.html

Conclusion:

Super SBB2: wins in multi-functions, newest car models, etc.

CK100 V46.02: almost same as SBB V46.02, better quality and more popular by locksmiths.

Therefore, I highly recommend the above two pieces.

VVDI PROG Latest Software Update to V4.6.4 and Free Downlode

VVDI PROG latest software V4.6.4 version update

Password:123456

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v4.6.4 (2017-10-26)
* This version DON’t need update firmware
* Fix some bugs
+ Add VVDI PROG USER MUNUAL 4.6.4 version in Doc folder
* Fix EEPROM CLIP ADAPTER R&W some chips error problem
+ Add LACROSSE-BCM(2008) option in <4-IMMOBILIZER>-><BUICK>
+ Add IMMOBOX(STM8AF5268),IMMOBOX(STM8AF6268) options in <4-IMMOBILIZER>-><TUNGTHIH>
+ Add ALSVIN-V7(2017) option in<5-DASHBOARD>-><CHANGAN>
+ Add HAVAL-H6 option in<5-DASHBOARD>-><GREATWALL>
+ Add E60-KBM, PDC-MODULE options in <8-OTHER>-><BMW>

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OBD read write engine ISN with Yanhua BMW FEM / BDC V1.0.5

OBD read write BMW FEM/BDC engine ISN on most N20, N13, N55 is possible with Yanhua BMW FEM /BDC key programmer V1.0.5.

Guide: Yanhua BMW FEM / BDC V1.0.5 read write engine ISN via OBD

Click on “Connect” then “OBD read / write engine ISN”

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Executing read DME ISN code…and then read out version

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Pops up “ISN – DME/DDE [MEVD1725_N13]” and “Execute read DME ISN code success”.

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Click on “Write” to have new DME ISN code and wait until writing succeed, click on “Close”.

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One more time, click on “OBD read / write engine ISN” to read out the new ISN code, wait until you see the message “Execute read DME ISN code success”

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Done!

Yanhua BMW-FEM/BDC V1.0.5 read and write DME ISN code succeed.

How to use Genuine Lishi TOY43R 2in1

Genuine Lishi TOY43R 2in1 locksmith tool, how to use:

Despite only having 8 positions on this pick decoder , this tool is for the 10 Cut TOY43R lock and not the 8 cut toy43 lock with the 2 split wafer positions in it.

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The reason this tool only has 8 of the 10 positions on it , is due to the door lock only housing 8 of the 10 cuts , only the ignition houses all 10 wafers . Once the door lock is picked and decoded , the 8 decoded and known cuts are entered into instacode , and the cutting tree will give you the remaining 2 cuts required for the ignition. Position 1 and 2 are found in the ignition lock only , so the tool grid is numbered 3 to 10.

The Lishi TOY43 2in1 pick is a very quick pick and decode for this very widely used Toyota lock , and will simplify producing the key blade for this lock and greatly simplify the entire gain entry process on this lock.

My own experience with this tool is to gain entry in under a minute generally and pick and decode in under 5 mins every time, so far without fail.

There is no proven picking sequence as yet with this particular tool , be careful not to overlift , as the No 4 cuts need no lift at all as these are already set to open as soon as tension is applied , so the more No 4 cuts the lock has in it , the simpler it will be to pick open.

Only a light to medium tension is required , and if a wafer has any movement at all , do not lift it at all !.

The lock has no preference to picking direction , and is easily picked to either direction , in addition the lock doesn’t need to be picked first , you can direct decode this with the 2in1 by applying turning tension and reading each position. However a more accurate decode is always achieved if picked first and held in the picked position, especially on worn locks.

The Picking Process

When picking this lock , the most common mistake is too much tension and overlifting , too much tension almost always leads to overlifting a wafer .

I cant stress enough the need to use only a light to medium tension and have full control over the lifting arm at all times.

Prior to picking i always advise flushing the lock out well with WD40 / GT85 or similar , this will help maximise feel during the picking process .

As I have already mentioned above , the No 4 wafers are already set and need no lift what so ever is needed to set these , so gently tickling each position to feel for any slight movement is essential , so when probing for a binding wafer it is essential that you don’t lift any wafer more than a ¼ mm , just a tiny tickle will confirm if binding or moving , if moving then leave well alone, as overlifting a No 4 cut is a common reason for failure to pick this lock.

As the lock has no confirmed preferred picking sequence , it is simple and traditional picking process of tickling each position no more than a ¼ mm to find a binding wafer , if it moves at all leave it alone, if it binds lift it just one grid increment at a time until movement is felt when tickling, so pick a binding wafer 1 x grid increment , then tickle it ¼ mm to see if moving or still binding, if still binding then pick another grid increment until movement is felt.

As long as you only lift a binding wafer , then once each binding wafer has movement the lock will open , demonstrated in the picture guide below.

Picking The TOY43 lock

Begin by fully inserting the Lishi TOY43 tool into the lock and apply a light to medium tension

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Find the 1st Binding wafer and then each binding wafer in turn

In this Lock position 3 is the 1st to bind & pick

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Position 8 is the next to bind and pick

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Position 6 is the next to bind and pick

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Position 5 is the next to bind and pick

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Position 5 binds and picks again and the lock opens.

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This particular lock was picked in under a minute so was a fairly simple differ to pick open due to the amount of No 4 cuts in the lock. As positions 4 , 7 , 9 and 10 didnt need picking , this confirms to us that these are No 4 cuts , the below decode process should confirm this.

Decoding the TOY43 lock using the Lishi 2in1 locksmith tool

This lock can be direct decoded , without the need for it being picked first , the process is to apply firm tension and decode each position using the same process as decoding when picked , however on worn locks the odd misleading reading can happen, so we advise picking first for best and most accurate results.

As this is a twin lifter tool , we decode in the same direction as we picked in , pushing the lifting arm across the numbered line and reading the cut height from where it stops using the numbered lines on the right hand side grid.

The process is as simple as hold the lock in the picked position and read each position 3 to 10 as below .

Position 3 is a No 3 cut

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Position 4 is confirmed as a No 4 cut

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Position 5 is a No 2 cut

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Position 6 is a No 2 cut

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Position 7 is confirmed as a No 4 cut

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Position 8 is a No 3 cut

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Position 9 is confirmed as a No 4 cut

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Position 10 is also confirmed as a No 4 cut

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This gives us the majority of the key cuts needed , and gives us the 10 cut key from bow to tip of ??34224344 , so we enter this into instacode , and it gives us the cutting tree , which in this case was 1 of several possible keys that would use a maximum of 2 blanks to find correct key.

However , despite the fact that this tool is not designed for the ignition , i insert the tool fully into the ignition and feel for the 1st 2 wafers , it wont line up to a grid position accurately , but when a light tension is applied to the lock and you have found the 1st 2 wafers the cut height grid is still accurate and the front 2 positions can be directly decoded , so the entire key can be read .

In doing this the entire key was 2134224344 .

So despite the tool not being constructed to read the ignition , with a little forsight it is possible to read the missing wafers in position 1 and 2 by a little lateral thinking.

Lishi TOY43 2in 1 in details…

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